No such thing as an obsolete browser or OS IV

This is a little update on Steve‘s suggestion. You can view past updates for OSes in 2008, browsers in 2009, OSes and browsers in 2009, and in 2011. And just as before, we still have a few hits from IE 2.0. Though in what seems to be common trend across a lot of sites out there, Safari and Firefox are far ahead of Internet Explorer. Don’t know if this will change with the proliferation of Windows phones and Safari most likely includes a sizable number of iPhones.

On the OS front, Windows is still ahead with XP having the same usage share of Mac OS X. I believe “Windows NT” includes Windows 7/8 and Server 2008.

Browsers visiting eksith.com in September

Operating Systems hitting eksith.com in September

 

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WordPress Broken on IE?

Update: The TL;DR version of this post is that I’m stupid. Read the bottom.

This started last night, but it seems it hasn’t been resolved yet. I had to make the last post in Firefox because WordPress is suddenly uncooperative in IE. Apparently IE has effectively been cut off from the WP “experience” as of yesterday.

It’s 9.0.8… And it was fine a little while ago.

It’s the same version of IE!

I just tried making this post in IE and it only got saved to drafts. Wouldn’t publish at all. The fonts don’t look all that great either.

Front page on IE

Front page on FF

And the stats page is not opening up either and is stuck on “Loading”. Even the loading screen looks different in IE vs FF.

Stats loading page in IE

Stats loading page in Firefox

I’m hoping this is just a momentary glitch and the WP folks haven’t decided to completely cut off a very large percentage of the web populous.

Update

Thanks to timethief, I found out that I’m not as smart as I think I am. IE’s “Compatibility Mode”, an archaic left over from the days where web designers created sites with only IE 6+ in mind, was on all this time and I didn’t even notice. Not that I’m trying to resuce what’s left of my pride here, but I’m sure I did NOT turn on compatibility mode. IE has a habit of turning it on when visiting sites that are broken and then forgetting to turn it back off.

But in my defense, tell me how easy it is to spot the difference.

Compatibility mode On

Compatibility mode Off

 

Developer drama queens present:

“This web site does not supply identity information”…

…Which is by far one of the most vague and most easily misunderstood tooltip notices you could present to any user; Even an experienced one.  And I’m quite surprised this little gem went unnoticed by me all this time in Firefox, if it weren’t for the my accidental hover over the icon left of the URL bar after I upgraded to 3.5 recently.

Normally, this sort of wording problem goes unnoticed until pointed out and then fixed quickly. Alas, I found an amusing discourse on mozillaZine (that started March of last year) which prove once again, some people may also need Midol along with their antacids before accepting a seemingly obvious point.

The notice serves no worthwhile purpose for the vast majority of web users unless they’re submitting a form or need secure access for another purpose. And it shows a lack of foresight when it comes to user interactions as they could have easily worded this in a far more intuitive way.

Back to that forum thread…
The original post was :  “So how should a server admin provide this information?”

A fair and reasonable question.

Unfortunately it all degenerates into SSL vs EV SSL, the domain “shortcomings” at not providing encryption (I didn’t realise this was a prerequisite for all connections and form fields),  there was an argument about one thing, but there isn’t an argument something else… etc… etc…  All of which have no bearing  whatsoever on the above poorly worded notification, but of course, the drama queens arrive crying foul at any arguments to the contrary. Relabel an analogy as being a straw-man argument. That always works.

How this all ended this way is a good example of why Firefox community branches could use a good pruning… And some neutering too, perhaps.  In fact most of the open source community use a good helping of humble pie on occasion. Is how you’re personally perceived as a developer more important than getting a quality product out? And when pointed out an obvious shortcoming, is ignoring, or worse yet, nagging the messenger really the appropriate reaction?

Well that’s all well and good, but here’s my suggestion :

When submitting user data, it’s helpful to have a notification in the URL bar on whether the connection is secure. Particularly when submitting form fields. However, the notification must be unambiguous or at least be as clear as possible for the average user with no knowledge of secure connections, encryption and such.

And your definition of “clear” doesn’t apply to everyone else. Be aware that you’re creating a product for the masses so it’s the masses’ opinion that counts.

There’s no such thing as an obsolete browser

In what seems to be a continuing trend here, a significant number of users seem to be unwilling or unable to upgrade their browsers.

Here’s what February of 2009 brought to eksith.com.

Be afraid! Be very afraid!!

Be afraid! Be very afraid!!

Makes me question the whole purpose of designing sites with the latest browser in mind anyway. All this time, I’ve been thinking about users who have a browser with full CSS/XHTML capability and those with none. It seems there’s a whole multitude of them within a gray area between.

I’m mainly concerned with the Firefox 2.x and IE 6 groups, of which IE 6 causes the greatest concern as they present the largest group using an obsolete browser. Even the old Firefox renders pages to an acceptable degree. IE 6 presents no incentive whatsoever to design pages with semantics in mind. I have to use some kind of hack or other proprietary markup in the HTML or CSS to get it to work as it should. At least with IE 7, they’ve fixed some of the more egregious rendering issues.

And a little update on the OS stats from last year

Downgrades?

Downgrades?

People are abandoning Vista at a dramatic rate or there was simply a jump in XP visitors. Either way, Vista is at a minority this year. And, a bit of a plesant surprise, the number of Linux users have jumped dramatically as well. This would explain why there are a few K-Meleon and Mozilla users in the browser list.

Turn off Firefox3 address bar bookmark search.

Firefox address bar Bookmarks = Incredibly Annoying!

I’m sure there are some users who find this useful, but considering I have, literally, a hundred+ bookmarks and I get to see this every time I enter in any character, it’s really annoying.

For those of you who don’t know what I’m talking about…

Well intentioned, but annoying for me

Well intentioned, but annoying for me

I keep all of them organized into folders so I always find what I’m looking for. This was really unnecessary for me.

So how to turn it off?

Go to your about config > search for urlbar > select browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped and set it to true.

config, find browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped and set it to true

In about:config, find browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped and set it to true

There… Problem solved!

Like I said before, there are plenty of people who would find this useful. But I’m not one of them. I’m sure a lot of others out there aren’t either.

Update

On second thought, that number of a hundred+ bookmarks may be slightly off…

Here is a list of those folders..

I didn't really take a moment to glance at this

I didn’t really take a moment to glance at this

And a few samples within… Yes, there are folders within folders

Design related bookmarks

Design related bookmarks


Electronics related bookmarks

Electronics related bookmarks

Upon closer inspection, the actual number may be several hundred to a thousand bookmarks.
Each folder has about the same number of links in them… Yikes!